Here's an article that I stumbled upon from catholiclane.com-
by Mary Kochan on Dec 13, 2011
Okay, so here is the story:
In Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc. v. Brewer, (D AZ, Dec. 12, 2011), an Arizona federal district court dismissed an Establishment Clause challenge to the Arizona governor’s proclaiming a “Day of Prayer.” The court held that plaintiffs lacked standing because they were not injured by the governor’s proclamation, saying:
Plaintiffs provide affidavits to establish they turned off the television and altered conversational habits to avoid the topic of religion or the day of prayer…. Plaintiffs, however, do not explain why their alleged injury is different than injuries in other Establishment Clause cases in which the plaintiffs did not have standing, such as the President’s day of prayer proclamation. Essentially, Plaintiffs seek a ruling obliquely holding that injury sufficient to confer standing exists under the Establishment Clause where government action is covered in the news or the subject of a social conversation. The Court declines to depart from Establishment Clause case law on this ground. Plaintiffs have not shown injury beyond “stigmatic injury” or feeling like an “outsider.”
The East Valley Tribune reports a few more details on the decision and reactions to it:
“Gov. Brewer’s proclamations proclaim a day of prayer, and one proclamation encourages all citizens to pray for God’s blessings on our state and nation,” the judge acknowledged.
“Though ‘encouraged,’ no one, including plaintiffs, is obligated to pray,” Silver wrote. “Nor are plaintiffs forced to alter their physical routine or bear a monetary expense to avoid a religious symbol.”
At best, the judge said, those challenging the governor’s actions have incurred a “stigmatic injury” or “feeling like an outsider.” None of that, said Silver, gives them the right to sue.
Attorney Marc Victor said his clients are weighing whether to seek review from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals or file a new lawsuit in state court. He said there are similar requirements to separate church and state in the Arizona Constitution.
In a prepared statement Brewer praised the court, calling the lawsuit “a futile attempt to stifle an American right and tradition.”
“Citizens of every race, background and creed have been coming together in voluntary prayer since our nation’s founding, and will continue to do so against this organization’s best efforts,” the governor said.
Press aide Matthew Benson acknowledged that not everyone believes in prayer. But he said that does not mean his boss is doing anything unconstitutional.
Let’s get this straight. The atheists are suing because they had to turn off the television to avoid the topic of religion or news announcements about the Day of Prayer. They had to alter their conversation to avoid the topic of religion. This made them feel like “outsiders”.
Oh, boo hoo.
You whiny, sniveling, little, pusillanimous cowards. You have the audacity to tell us Christians that we are “weak” and that our religion is a “crutch.” You are supposed to be so “courageous”, venturing forth boldly into the existential mystery of being alone, facing with stoicism the nothingness that awaits you at death, priding yourself on your realism and self-reliance. You are a bunch of feeble fakers.
|This picture obviously proves the United States was founded a christian nation...see the flag with the bible? duh!|
Yes, you are outsiders. Go start your own damn country. This one was started by Christians, you puerile dimwits. It is Christians who established and largely Christians who fought and died to maintain the freedoms you enjoy. And Christians are still the majority. Apparently your vaulted belief system doesn’t equip you to handle being in the minority. That’s interesting, isn’t it? After all, this was and is a societal situation valiantly handled by millions and millions of Christians who suffered — and currently suffer — real oppression, violence, torture, economic deprivation, and cruel deaths. But you have to go through turning off the TV once in a while and so your precious puny feelings are hurt. How delicate and frail your mental architecture is!
You are a pitiful joke. Trembling over the mere mention of God. Running like babies to court because of your brittle feelings. “Oh, but judge, but judge, I saw a cross and I just can’t stand it.” “I heard someone say ‘Merry Christmas’ and it hurt my feelings.” “I just can’t sleep knowing there is a manger scene at the courthouse.” “The sight of the Ten Commandments makes me wet my pants.” Now we see how inadequate and feeble you really are. Rage, therapists say, is the flip side of helplessness. And so we see your rage against religion in the public square for what it is: a product of your own insubstantial internal resources. Go look at yourself in the mirror if you can bear the pathetic, contemptible sight of yourself. Our merest martyr shows you to be a wimp – fourteen-year-old Kizito of Uganda singing hymns while being burned alive. But you, you anemic, lily-livered worms – you quail at pushing the off button on the remote! Hah!
First I'd like to address the last portion of the article. The burning of Kizito is a perfect example of why Atheists don't want to see or read anything about religion. If you think about it just a little maybe you would realize that whole scene was caused by one factor, religion. So Mary is giving an example of the atrocities committed in the name of religion as a defense against attacks from Atheists? Seems an odd way to make your point.....unless your a Catholic I guess since Mary seems quite okay with it.
I'm glad we Atheists don't have a martyr like Kizito the reason we don't is because we don't do any killing in the name of Atheism.
Atheists aren't interested in a violent movement to eradicate Christians or anybody else. People like Mary Kochan think in those terms though, that's how she thinks things should be. Mary doesn't decry the violence that resulted in Kizitos death in the name of religion, she basks in the glory of having someone of her faith sing songs about a god who wouldn't spare his young life. Instead of saving the life of Kizito from being taken in the name of religion his god allowed him to be burned alive. I wonder if Mary Kochan can even begin to grasp the way it feels to be burned to death.
To make a couple more points about Mary's little temper tantrum. (see: hello pot, this is kettle...you are black)She places a blanket around all Atheists. We all are whiny, sniveling, pusillanimous, cowardly, dimwitted , wimpy, anemic, lily-livered worms, and a bunch of feeble fakers. I won't judge all Catholics as childish and feeble minded because of Mary's ability to regress back to the maturity level of a 7 year old, or maybe she never matured past that point there is no way for me to know for sure.
What I can say for sure is Mary Kochan knows very little about the founding fathers. I almost feel sorry for her because it's always kind of sad to see an ignorant person who thinks they are smart mock others by using incorrect information. Reading Mary's claim about the United States being founded as a Christian nation is like watching a child prove he has super-human strength by bending a wire coat hanger. The child doesn't gasp the concept yet, neither does Mary.
Mary Kochan also manages to give us a clear look at how she thinks and what she would say to Atheists if she is ever elected to be Jesus-
Get out of the country. Yep, that's right, you ain't Christian you ain't shit. You all can stay as long as you STFU and allow us Christians to do as we damn well please. You have a problem with us mixing religion with government? Get the hell out! We all know there is nothing in the constitution keeping Christianity out of government! Now shut up and quit whining about your place in this country, your place is in HELL sinner! you should be thanking us Christians you are even free to let us do what we want. WE FOUGHT AND DIED FOR YOUR FREEDOM TO LET US HAVE OUR WAY, you ingrates.
Even now we suffer REAL oppression, violence, torture, economic deprivation, and cruel deaths. Why can't you give us Christians a break? We only make up a majority of the country and everyone knows the majority has almost no chance of being treated fairly. You Atheists dare complain about our tendency to believe in things that can in no way be tested as to their validity? HOW DARE YOU MOCK OUR RIGHT TO BUILD A COUNTRY BASED ON RELIGIOUS BELIEFS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO INDIVIDUAL INTERPRETATION WHICH CAN DIFFER DRAMATICALLY DEPENDING ON WHO YOU ASK....HOW ...DARE..... YOU!